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The client approached with the need to configure the system completely according to his requirements.
sphere - the production of parts on the machine.
What the Clint Needs:
1. They have a calculator on their website, with which the client can calculate the cost (if someone gives an answer, I will give access). First of all, you need to make the same calculator in boxing. To do this, the client can then provide a formula by which the calculation should be.
The client makes an order on the site, then this order is processed and put into production.
And therein lies the problem. During an 8-hour working day, the machine is in working order for only 4 hours. The remaining 4 hours are spent on replacing components, and the like. There are two options: either it really takes 4 hours to do the routine work of preparation, or the workers are lazy. If the first, then he wants to arrange this work a little as follows: for example, an order came in for cutting metal 4 mm, 5 mm and 30 mm, the seco
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Answers:

Artem,
I don't know much about production processes to answer your question perfectly.
For now, I'll ask questions:
1. What is a "kit"? Is it a type of nozzle for a machine that needs to be installed on it so that it starts cutting something of the required thickness?
2. There are two machines and three sets for them. Are there 3 different sets or 6 in total?
3. One machine for cutting, one for punching?
4. Can you give an example of a specific order, describe in simple words what the machine does, what part is it? A square with holes made of a metal plate, or something else?
25.09.2020, 21:30
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Miroshnichenko Maxim Alexandrovich
OneBox CEO admin wrote:
1. What is a "kit"? Is it a type of nozzle for a machine that needs to be installed on it so that it starts cutting something of the required thickness?

Yes

Miroshnichenko Maxim Alexandrovich
OneBox CEO admin wrote:
2. There are two machines and three sets for them. Are there 3 different sets or 6 in total?
3. One machine for cutting, one for punching?

Two machines
The first one is for sheet cutting 3 sets of consumables (Punching and cutting)
We are not considering the second pipe cutting machine right now
 

Miroshnichenko Maxim Alexandrovich
OneBox CEO admin wrote:
4. Can you give an example of a specific order, describe in simple words what the machine does, what part is it? A square with holes made of a metal plate, or something else?

 
Plate dimensions 200x200mm
Number of holes 4 pcs
Hole diameter 20 mm
Sheet thickness 10 mm.
No. of piercings = 4 holes (4 piercings)+plate contour 1 Piercing = 5 piercings in total
Cutting length=Perimeter plate (200+200)*2=800mm
The circumference of one hole with a diameter of 20mm = 62.83 mm x 4 holes = 251.32
Total Cut length 800 + 251.32 = 1051.32x50 rubles (the cost of cutting a 10mm thick sheet) = 52.56 rubles.
Punches 5 pieces x 8 rubles (the cost of one punching hole 10 mm thick) = 40 rubles
The total cost of cutting the embedded part is 52.56 + 40 \u003d 92.56 rubles
29.09.2020, 13:19
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I'll try to write something. If I understand correctly, of course.
In general, this task is best solved by the production manager, who will collect orders every day and tell everyone what to do in what order.
To file this logic on OneBox before trying the manager is a lot of money and time.
It feels like this logic will be profitable when there are 50 or more machines.
To start, OneBox can only be used as an accounting system with orders, so that the future / current manager can see in an interface convenient for him what kind of orders he has, and OneBox will show:
today you have 10 orders
cutting 10 mm x 20 meters (this is 4 standard hours)
punches 20 mm x 50 pcs (this is 2 standard hours)
punches 10 mm x 10 pcs (this is 0.5 standard hours)
And it's all sorted by normal hours in descending order.
Visually, you can immediately see that you need to put a nozzle for cutting 10 mm on the first machine, then change the nozzle to the next one, and so on.
In order for the system to issue the correct sequence of actions for the machine, taking into account the most efficient waste of time, this can be done, but it is expensive. It is necessary to program an NP-complete task, which, in fact, among all options, is looking for the most profitable one. This is something like finding the shortest path among all options.
(expensive - less than $20K don't even talk)
01.10.2020, 13:02
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Miroshnichenko Maxim Alexandrovich
OneBox CEO wrote:
I'll try to write something. If I understand correctly, of course. In general, this task is best solved by the production manager, who will collect orders every day and tell everyone what to do in what order. To save this logic on OneBox until the manager has been tried, this is a lot of money and time. I feel that this logic will be beneficial when there are 50 or more machines. To start, OneBox can only be used as an accounting system with orders, so that the future / current manager can see in an interface convenient for him what kind of orders he has, and OneBox will show : today you have 10 orders for cutting 10 mm x 20 meters (that's 4 standard hours) punching 20 mm x 50 pcs (that's 2 standard hours) punching 10 mm x 10 pcs (that's 0.5 standard hours) And it's all sorted by in descending order. Visually, you can immediately see that you need to put a nozzle for cutting 10 mm on the first machine, then change the nozzle to the next one, and so on. In order for the system to issue the correct sequence of actions for the machine, taking into account the most efficient waste of time - t what can be done, but it is expensive. It is necessary to program an NP-complete task, which, in fact, among all options, is looking for the most profitable one. This is something like finding the shortest path among all options. (expensive - it's less than $20K, don't even talk)

and what about the 2nd paragraph of the TK?

Kislukha Alina
Employee wrote:
2. Based on the formula, boxing should understand that if there is a part in the order that has a punch, then there should be a field where the system pulls up the kit, which should be on the machine for punching the part.
This must be done in order to take into account the wear of the kit and have it in stock in advance.
For example: if the kit has struck 1000 times, then the system should signal that the consumables need to be changed. This task falls on the operator. He should write down in the report what he changed,
must know what is in stock.
If it is written in the system that the kit has been changed, but this is not visible on the camera, then it will be stuck.
How can this be done in box?
01.10.2020, 15:45
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2. Based on the formula, boxing should understand that if there is a part in the order that has a punch, then there should be a field where the system pulls up the kit, which should be on the machine for punching the part.
This must be done in order to take into account the wear of the kit and have it in stock in advance.
For example: if the kit has struck 1000 times, then the system should signal that the consumables need to be changed. This task falls on the operator. He should write down in the report what he changed,
must know what is in stock.
If it is written in the system that the kit has been changed, but this is not visible on the camera, then it will be stuck.

Accounting for wear is another of the simplest tasks.
When an order enters a certain "completed" status, then for all the details where there was a punch in some bonus / accounting table, the "expenditure in hours" is written off.
01.10.2020, 21:05
Как со мной связаться - никак :)
Задавайте вопросы на форуме публично - и я отвечу.
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Original comment available on version: ru

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